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PostSubject: Understanding how torrents work and how to help speed them up   Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:20 am

I'm seeing way too many people who don't seem to understand how torrents work or that are complaining about speeds and frankly its getting on my nerves seeing all these numerous amounts of people saying "please seed" when its already being seeded and at a nice speed.

I put a new torrent up and within 5 minutes I get requests of "please seed" because its not going as fast as they would like and its pointless of them to do that and annoying as well. It's a brand new torrent, there is only one seeder so far.

The only time you should have to ask "Me" to seed is if for some reason, the torrent managed to get below 1 seeder which rarely happens, the one seeder is only uploading at a slow speed like 5kb/s or something, or that 1 seeder is never on and you have gotten no progress at all for a few days or more. I seed at a speed of at least 700kb/s so begging "please seed" right away is not the answer.

So its time to help YOU fully understand how torrents work because obviously a lot of you are just people who download, expect super fast speeds, and then either don't seed afterwards, have no idea how they work, or are just using a poor or badly set up torrent client.

Follow these 4 tips and I promise you will see better results from your torrent client or at least begin to understand how they work a little better.


1. First off, if a torrent has a shit ton of leechers and only a few seeders, then of course its going to go slow. Its not always your fault or your torrent clients fault but torrent client settings can contribute to slower speeds. Even if a seeder is seeding at 4MB/s, if there's over 300 people trying to get it from him, hes more than likely splitting that speed between alot of those downloaders causing each person to get like 20kb/s or less, and then the downloaders share what they have gotten from the seeder so far. Those leechers cant upload faster because they don't have much to upload yet and with so many people trying to get it at the same time, its going to take a while before alot more people have a sufficiently higher amount to seed or share which will increase speed. You cant expect super download speed when theres 20 seeders and over 100 leechers. They would all have to have top notch connections or seedboxes in order for speeds that your expecting and I know not everyone has those. So if you see a new upload and there's only one seeder, or theres only a few seeders but a ton of leechers, then DON'T expect speeds like 2MB/s download speed. You will just have to shut up, quit whining, and be patient. Begging "please seed" in the comments or to the uploader is not going to speed this up. It all depends on how many people stick around to seed after they finish the download. (Which I have noticed is not many people at all because I see like 10,000+ downloads and only 5 seeders in some cases) and it all depends on how fast their upload capabilities are, and I can tell you, most people do not have lightning fast upload speeds on common cheaper internet connections, which happens to be what most people pay for. It gets a nice download speed but shitty upload speed. You can also wait for more seeders to appear but personally I wouldn't do that because by the time it happens, you could already be pretty far into the download or have a nice jumpstart by not waiting and accepting the slower speed until more people begin to finish and become seeders.


2. Second off, you should check your client settings and or version. I have seen people with settings that are not going to get them top speeds or better connection speeds. They usually have limited settings that are too low to help all that much. Also, some of the newer builds of torrent clients seem to be very poor or slower in both mine and several other peoples opinion. My favorite and possibly the best torrent client I have used up to date with no ads or slow downs is BitTorrent 7.2.1. The newer versions of that client really suck in my opinion and several others opinions and I don't really care for the ads in them either. Utorrent looks exactly the same and seems to run the exact same way as the newer bittorrent clients, its nothing more than a clone with a different name from the looks of it. I didn't find that to be a favorite of mine either. Bittorrent and Utorrent are the only 2 I have tried and checked out multiple versions of. The version choice is yours, this is just what I find to be the best for me. Either way, the torrent is going to finish downloading in the end.

Feel free to read comments here to see how people agree Bittorrent 7.2.1 is one of the best versions and not loaded with ads and other junk like most are now.

http://www.oldapps.com/bittorrent.php?old_bittorrent=6640

You can also download it here

https://mega.nz/#!JtZRTQjC!xUJehJFTcM1PMG8ZtyGJODl29i63r4Ol1lhVQXCTAgU


Anyways, time to check your torrent client settings and here are some suggestions for getting more speed.

Check your Global Number Of Maximum Connections setting and raise it. This is the maxumim amount of connections your torrents are allowed to have, if you keep this low, then you can cant connect to shit tons of people and download from them, you will stop connecting to new people when that limit is reached. Raise it up some, I put mine at 1500 usually.

Check your Maximum Number Of Connected Peers Per Torrent setting and raise it. If this is low like 10 or so then your only gonna be able to connect to 10 people to download or upload from. Theres no way in hell you will be able to connect to 30+ seeders with a setting that low and you wont get nowhere near the download speed that you could. I usually put this at 60 since that seems to be plenty but you can use more if you care about downloading more than uploading.

Check your Number Of Upload Slots Per Torrent setting and make it a fair amount but not huge. If you set this 60 then your going to be splitting your upload speed between up to 60 people and those 60 people will get only small amounts and speeds from you. Set this to about 10-15 or so that way you only split your upload speeds between about 10-15 people, and if there is an option to check in called "Use additional upload slots if upload speed < 90% (Less than 90%) then check that box in and it will use more as needed on its own. If people connected to you have a slow download speed and all 10-15 of the allowed uploaders together are getting a speed slower than your max upload capability, that setting will allow other people to connect, even if the limit is reached (If Im not mistaken)

This can increase uploading speeds for people because your giving it to fewer people at a higher speed, and the leechers can connect to those other people once your limit is reached. because those other people are getting if from you faster, they have more to share to others faster.

((Some torrent clients may have other settings or call them different things but this should give you an idea of what to look for and change))


3. The third thing here to talk about is Trackers. That can REALLY help your speed when you make sure you have all the trackers that the torrent is uploaded inside of your torrent. If that torrent is on multiple sites then go to those sites and download that same torrent. When you open it you will be given the option to load the trackers of that site into your current download.

A tracker is a server that is hosting the torrent file, and if people download and upload to it then they are a seeder and or leecher on that tracker. Some trackers will have much more seeders and downloaders than others. If you have all of these loaded into your torrent client, then you will be connecting to all of those people, if you only have one tracker loaded into your torrent file, then you will only connect to that trackers seeders and leechers and all of the other sites that are seeding and leeching, the torrent wont even know about them and you will be missing out on possible people to download from and faster speeds.

I noticed when I upload to KAT with 15 trackers placed in my torrent, when I download it again or on another computer from KAT, for some reason it did not keep all the trackers in the torrent, theres only a few of them. You can get the rest of the trackers loaded into the torrent file and increase your speeds by either going to each of these sites I post below or pasting this list of trackers into your torrent file once its in your client.

If you want the best speeds make sure you get all of the trackers loaded into your torrent file.

I usually upload to these sites.

KickAssTorrents - https://kickass.so/user/DarkDream787/uploads/ (Sadly this seems permanently down)
Nyaa Torrents - http://www.nyaa.se/?user=182059
Extratorrent (Currently my most used) - http://extratorrentonline.com/profile/darkdream787/torrents/
LimeTorrents - https://www.limetorrents.cc/profile/DarkDream787/
ThePirateBay - https://thepiratebay.org/user/DrkDream


NOTE: My uploads to Nyaa only have the Nyaa torrent tracker in them since that is all they allow anymore. You will need to add in more trackers from the list I have here if you wish to be able to download and seed better.


NOTE: ThePirateBay for some reason automatically deletes all the trackers I put in my torrents and replaces it with the 3 they want or like. I upload torrents to them then when I download it, it only has 3 public trackers in it. You will need to add in more trackers from the list I have here if you wish to be able to download and seed better.


NOTE: I recommend getting the torrent from ExtraTorrent because it does not remove or change the trackers I put into my torrents and has the entire list of them.


You can download the torrent file from all those sites and automatically add the trackers or you can simply paste this list of trackers into the torrent file in the client and you will get all trackers I use.

Since Nyaa doesnt allow all trackers on their site I have to remove all the trackers but one for them because they don't allow or block them, I would recommend either pasting this list into the torrent file or downloading it from the sites above and adding the trackers that way. This will help your speed because now you will connect to all the sites I upload to and all the people on all sites and not just Nyaa users.


udp://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969/announce

udp://tracker.leechers-paradise.org:6969/announce

udp://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce

http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce

udp://9.rarbg.to:2710/announce

udp://9.rarbg.me:2710/announce

udp://p4p.arenabg.ch:1337/announce

udp://p4p.arenabg.com:1337/announce

http://p4p.arenabg.ch:1337/announce

udp://tracker.ilibr.org:6969/announce

udp://explodie.org:6969/announce

udp://zer0day.ch:1337/announce

udp://public.popcorn-tracker.org:6969/announce

http://open.nyaatorrents.info:6544/announce


4. To improve the use of trackers, make sure you have DHT enabled, have Peer Exchange enabled, and have Local peer discovery enabled. Those will make finding and connecting to peers even easier and faster, and will work even if a lot of trackers go down because of how they operate. This is possibly one of the more important things you can do to help speeds for you and others.

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PostSubject: Re: Understanding how torrents work and how to help speed them up   Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:41 am

For those who don't know how to manually add the tracker list into your torrent file in your torrent client, just give this a try.

I just right click on the torrent in the torrent client and choose properties. The entire list of trackers shows up and things can be added to or deleted from the list.

I don't think this will happen to anyone, but if for some reason your torrent client wont let you change the list of trackers, then your going to have to download the torrent file from all the sites I upload to and then just open the file and say yes you want to load the trackers.

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PostSubject: Re: Understanding how torrents work and how to help speed them up   Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:49 am

I noticed almost half of the trackers I was using are either not working anymore because their old and or gone/deleted, they seem to be down all the time, they have been updated since I began to use them, or any other reason. It has afterall been a long time since I have changed trackers due to using the same torrent sites for years and not noticing any real reason to until recently.

Because of this I have updated the trackers in a lot of my torrents on KickAssTorrents and deleted the no longer working trackers or trackers that are deleted and not up anymore. I also added in a couple new public/open trackers as well.

You can get the new list of trackers in your client if your seeding anything of mine by downloading any torrent I have put up within the last year on KickAssTorrents (I didn't bother with anything older than 2 years so no need if it was uploaded over 2 years ago) and adding the trackers to your currently seeding torrents by simply opening the re-downloaded torrent file.

New torrents I put up will automatically have this new list so there is no reason to re-download the torrent file for uploads of mine that come after today.

If you did not get the torrent originally from KickAssTorrents or dont plan to download it again from there to add the trackers the easy way, then you will have to just manually add in the updated list when I put it up.


(I will update the list in the original post on this page when I fully finish adding new public or working trackers to it)

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PostSubject: Re: Understanding how torrents work and how to help speed them up   Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:47 pm

Trackers updated.

The old list can be found here if you need it for my really old torrents. (December 2014 or earlier are what I consider older)

NOTE: I would not use these for creating new torrents because most are outdated or dead now. I suppose you could add this list to the more updated one above, but that's a ton of trackers and some sites don't like your torrents to have more than 15 when uploading. It doesn't really help to upload using outdated trackers either because they wont work. I would only manually add these listed below trackers in your torrent to the updated list above if your downloading my older torrents, since those are the trackers in them.



(First year or two trackers that are currently dead)

udp://open.demonii.com:1337

udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80/announce

udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce

udp://tracker.istole.it:80/announce

udp://tracker.ccc.de:80/announce

http://exodus.desync.com:6969/announce

udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80

udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80

udp://tracker.istole.it:6969

udp://tracker.ccc.de:80

udp://tracker.istole.it:80/announce4

http://bt2.careland.com.cn:6969/announce

udp://open.demonii.com:1337/announce

http://exodus.desync.com:6969/announce2

http://open.nyaatorrents.info:6544/announce



(Newer trackers that are currently dead or didn't work for me)

udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80

udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce

udp://open.demonii.com:1337

udp://open.demonii.com:1337/announce

udp://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969

udp://tracker.leechers-paradise.org:6969

udp://9.rarbg.com:2710/announce

udp://9.rarbg.me:2710/announce

udp://tracker.pomf.se

http://open.nyaatorrents.info:6544/announce

udp://tracker.istole.it:80/announce

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PostSubject: Re: Understanding how torrents work and how to help speed them up   Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:53 pm

Well with the loss of KAT, I had to redo trackers and decide on new places to upload to, so that information has been updated in the original post.

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PostSubject: Re: Understanding how torrents work and how to help speed them up   Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:18 am

Information and notes updated

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